Hello friends, and welcome to Season 2 Episode 9 of Conversations With A Couple Of Crones.

In this episode of CWACOC we were delighted to welcome our very good friend, Esther Vis, to join us as our special guest.

Esther, like us, has a deep passion for the Gene Keys. She is a Gene Keys Guide and has travelled her Golden Path several times. Also like us, she is currently travelling the Sage’s journey. Esther has a passion and a gift for working with the Dream Arc*, and that’s what we talk about in this episode.

Meghan set us all a task, a quest to prepare us for this episode … we were to consult the Dream Arc Oracle on a question or issue that we are currently contemplating, and then spend the week prior to recording, in contemplation of the Dream Arc creature that the Oracle gave each of us.

We got two Toads and a Parrot … but who got what, and just what messages did these creatures have for us?! Well, you’ll have to listen to find out!

You can choose to listen to this episode as a Podcast while you go about your day, or you can grab a cuppa and join us in our video as we chat – just click the film icon on the player below 🎞️

Where Are WE Now?!

We didn’t need to ask our usual question of “Where am I now?”, because the entire episode was all about where each of is, right now, in our travels with these incredible creatures.

Now, I’m not going to tell you here what our questions were, and I’m not going to tell you about the profound messages we each took from the Dream Arc creatures we were gifted by the Oracle. Like I said, you’re just going to have to listen to hear all the juice we squeezed out of our Toads and our Parrot (metaphorically speaking, of course! No Dream Arc creature was harmed in the making of this podcast!! 😂 ).

What I will tell you is that the messages were massive for each of us, changing the trajectory of not only the next 6 months, but also the trajectory of an entire life!!

Ooooh!! Now, doesn’t that sound like the sort of magical episode you want to listen to?!!

I know! I know!! I’m being a bit of a tease, but honestly, if you are interested in the Gene Keys and you’re curious about ways you can work with Dream Arc animals (because all three of us worked with ours in completely different ways), then you will love this episode. I know that we all loved having this conversation. It was rich and honest and deep. And it was so much fun.

About Toad and Parrot

The material in the Dream Arc is obviously copyrighted and you have to own the course in order to access all of the guidance, but I will share a little bit with you …

Toad is in the Category of the Changers

It is all about the Fear of the Unknown

It is the Fear for Key Gene Key 57

Parrot is in the Category of the Laughers

It is the Vision of Jubilant Celebration

It is the Vision Key for Gene Key 42

We ended with our usual whimsical questions, which were actually really deep and perfectly fitted with the vibe of the whole podcast.

Oh, we are deeply grateful to Esther for joining us in this glorious conversation … we are definitely doing this again!! Esther is an absolute joy to talk to!

We hope you will love listening to this podcast as much as we enjoyed creating it.

Until next time,

Lizzie and Meghan and Esther 🩵

You will able to tell from this conversation that Esther is a consummate storyteller. You can read some of Esther’s wonderful stories, about her journey with the Gene Keys, about her adventures with the Dream Arc, and about her love of crystals, on her Substack page … Esther | Innerlijk Licht Magie

* The Dream Arc is “is a rich and highly unique journey designed to expand your creativity, unlock your intuitive wisdom and connect you to the deep ancestral power of the earth and her creatures.” It is a companion to the Gene Keys teachings, but you don’t have to know anything about the Gene Keys in order to lean into this truly intuitive body of work.