Hello my friends,

Welcome to Season 2 Episode 8 of Conversations With A Couple Of Crones.

How perfect that we recorded Episode 8 during the Pulse of Gene Key 8 – the journey from Mediocrity to Exquisiteness, and this was an exquisite conversation.

This was such an exciting Podcast for us to record. We’ve been doing these CWACOCs for just over a year now, and since the outset, we have been longing to have Hayley Curtis as a special guest.

Meghan and I joined Hayley’s membership, Gene Keys Unleashed, on exactly the same day, December 26^th, 2022, meaning that we not only met each other on that day, but we both met Hayley at the same time. Meghan was Hayley’s first long-term client, and I was close behind!

Just before the show, I did a quick search on our Cauldron of Crones website for Hayley’s name … we have talked about her in 82 different articles, videos and podcasts! She is also our Numero Uno Crone in our Crone Collective (even though she’s not a crone by chronological age, she is most definitely a crone when it comes to wisdom and far-sightedness). So, it’s fair to say that Hayley is the lodestone* who holds our fractal line together.

You can choose to listen to this episode as a Podcast while you go about your day, or you can grab a cuppa and join us in our video as we chat – just click the film icon on the player below 🎞️

Fractal Line Magic

Now, Hayley is a genius on this subject of Fractals. She brought us together; she brings so many beautiful souls together. We just knew that our first conversation with her had to be about Fractal Line Magic. But first, here is Richard’s definition …

Fractal Line — When our current universe was conceived at the moment of the Big Bang, the crystalline seed of our evolution shattered into countless fractal shards or fragments. These fractal aspects of the whole radiated out in precise geometric patterns known as fractal lines. All fractal lines can be traced back to one of three primary fractal lines, thus seeding the trinity within all aspects of the holographic universe. As you move into deeper harmony with your true nature, you come into alignment with all beings within your seed fractal line, which catalyses great synchronicity and grace in your life.

From The Glossary of Empowerment

And our first question to Hayley was, “What is it all about?! What is the Magic behind fractals?”, because that is what our friendships feel like … pure bloody magic!

Culture versus Attraction … Venus versus Pearl

Hayley introduced the importance the Culture Sphere in attracting your fractal line, and that lead us into a delicious conversation about the different roles that the Culture and Attraction spheres play in what and who we attract into our lives.

In the Pearl teachings, Richard says “it’s travelling through the fractal lines, the grace, and it’s opening and popping people and opening doorways and possibilities and opportunities that have been waiting, that have been closed or dormant up until now.”

We know how much Hayley loves the Pearl Sequence, so we couldn’t resist asking her to talk about this quote and how she’s seen it show up in her life.

Passing Our Wisdom Down the Fractal Line

In his article, “The Rising of the Yin”, Richard Rudd says this …

When an awakened woman gives birth to a child, then that child will come into the world as itself, and what’s more, the child will be brought up without the full conditioning of the Shadow. Thus, the ancestral conditioning within that fractal line will have been broken.

But what if awakening occurs after childbearing years, or in women who choose not to, or are unable to have children?! We had the most incredibly beautiful conversation about how we pass things along the fractal line in different ways, we don’t have children or are beyond our childbearing years.

All we ever have to do is be ourselves and take the initiative.

Hayley Curtis

And we ended our Podcast with a whimsical question**, in true Crones fashion!

This was a truly wonderful conversation, with the woman who brought us together. Hayley is our guide, our mentor, and a true soul friend to both of us. We’ve waited a long time to have her on our Podcast, and it was an absolute delight.

Until next time,

Lizzie 🩵

(*A lodestone is a naturally magnetized piece of the mineral magnetite. Acting as a permanent magnet, it attracts iron and was historically used to create the first navigational compasses. Figuratively, the term describes a person, place, or thing that strongly attracts interest and draws people in.

That sounds like Hayley to me!!)

** The book I talk about is Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants, by Robin Wall Kimmerer. “As a botanist, Robin Wall Kimmerer has been trained to ask questions of nature with the tools of science. As a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation, she embraces the notion that plants and animals are our oldest teachers. In Braiding Sweetgrass, Kimmerer brings these two ways of knowledge together.”