Welcome to Episode 3 of Conversations With A Couple Of Crones
In this episode of CWACOC, we begin with our usual opening question, “Where am I now?”. (As always you may choose to listen to the podcast above, or watch us on video by clicking the film icon on the player.)
In this week’s episode, you’ll hear Meghan talk about how she has begun to work with the lovely Samantha Vigliotti, to use EFT (tapping) over the next four months as she moves through her Venus Sequence. Meghan’s Gene Keys in her Activation Sequence are all quite physical, and in her Venus they are quite emotional. The tapping will help her as she moves through these emotions. There was a delicious conversation around how Meghan sees this modality of tapping fitting perfectly with her journey through the Venus, and I can’t wait to hear more from her in our “Where am I now” segments in the coming months.
And you’ll hear me talk about how I’m in a bit of a limbo at the moment, as I move from my Purpose into my Activation Spheres. I have been feeling a little bit numb, emotionally, and that is okay! I’m mentally preparing myself for the Shadow of Intellect that has always been a bit tricksy for me! I’m also feeling so deeply happy and grateful to have spent the last seven weeks in my glorious Gene Key 48.
The Question from Our Community
This week we had a question from the lovely Debbie, who has actually given us lots of juicy topics to talk about over the coming weeks and months …
Do you feel your Gene Keys journey is better explored alone, or in community—and why?
Meghan spoke in depth about how working with Hayley completely changed things for her, after years of working on her own. She spoke about the beautiful biofeedback loop that is created when you work closely with another; it is a marriage of sorts. Now she is expanding those marriages to include me, and to include the other women in Devoted. She spoke about how you can move so much faster in a group, because of the unseen, mysterious energy that comes into being … when one person has a breakthrough, another has a breakthrough.
For me, well, I have Line 1 in my Life’s Work. Line 1 is the Creator.
So, I am the woman who goes alone into her own depths to find herself, to love herself, and to heal herself. I need my solitude to do this … if I am to truly be the birthplace of the woman I was born to be, if I am to be the fertile ground out of which the real me is to grow, then I need to bring my attention inwards.
It’s all about me, being me!
I never thought that I would be able to work in a group, I thought that I COULD only work ON myself BY myself. But working with Hayley opened the door to the possibility of working with other people, the possibility of taking my dialogue which had just been me with me, and holding up that mirror of relationship.
But what I am finding is that actually I not only CAN work in a group, I can dive even deeper, I can find out even more about myself, if I work with other women who are walking the same path, if I share my story and listen to them share theirs. If I open myself up and I am vulnerable and honest, then these women return my openness and vulnerability with their own. These glorious women in Devoted give me so much strength.
And now I have these wonderful partnerships in my life … I have Meghan, I have Hayley, I have Lizzie and Trina and Monique. I have all of you glorious women, who are not only willing to listen to me tell my story, but they also trust me with theirs. They make me feel safe. That’s an incredible gift. To feel safe.
Meghan and I had such a glorious conversation about how important it can be to speak our process … and how talking can open up so much.
Meghan spoke beautifully about the Fear of Not Asking For Support which is in her Purpose, and how delicious it is to share this journey with other women.
Our Question to Ourselves
In each episode, Meghan and I will be coming up with a question or topic we want to ask ourselves! This week …
What Are Our Favourite Gene Keys That Are NOT in Our Charts …
But we think they should be, or we wish that they were!
For Meghan, it was “Why is this NOT in my chart?!”. She spoke about Gene Key 11 … Obscurity – Idealism – Light.
Meghan shared the most beautiful story about her Dream Arc journey after her mom died. The Polar Bear is the creature for this Gift of Idealism. Meghan journeyed for a couple of months with Polar Bear, nestling in a deep cave within herself, as she grieved her mother.
The Polar Bear is a Dreamer, and Meghan had the most wonderful vision of a group of Shaman Dreamers who came to her to tell her she was being initiated as a dreamer for this new world.
She spoke about dreams, about our fear of dreams, about how so often we find our dreams come from the Shadows. The Polar Bear tells us that it’s safe to dream. The Polar Bear is an Idealist.

I chose Gene Key 2, which is the Shadow of Dislocation, the Gift of Orientation, and the Siddhi of Unity.
This is the ultimate feminine Gene Key, and it is all about BEING. It feels as if this Gene Key is the sister Gene Key to my Purpose Key of 48, which is also all about the deep feminine; they are so akin to each other that I find it hard to believe that I haven’t got it in my chart!
There is this glorious thing that Richard says about Gene Key 2 …
IT’S NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A MISTAKE!!
This chimes so beautifully with the message of the Lynx, which is the Gift creature of my Gene Key 62, which I have in my Attraction sphere … bring the Gift of Precision. There are no mistakes. The perfection of the symmetry of your life, and all life, is perfect beyond measure. All is for learning.
So, it feels to me as if Gene Key 2 fits so perfectly between my Purpose and my Attraction … perhaps Richard will come up with a new sphere to go in this Pathway of Dharma, and mine will turn out to be GK 2!!!
So many of my Gene Keys ask me to trust, and GK 2 invites us to …
“Receive and trust whatever comes your way. Trust everything. Let life in.”
He also says … Fear is safe … and I LOVE that message!!
Gene Key 2 tells us that all life has an innate urge to complete a story. And we all know how much I love a story! This whole Gene Keys journey of mine is the most glorious story I’ve ever written!

And We End with a Touch of Whimsy
Listen in to each episode to hear us pose a whimsical question that the other is not expecting!!

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